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Listen, listen, listen. We have a
birthday boy in the lab today. Tommy?
What the hell, man? Everyone's got to
have a hobby, dude.
You're kind of ruining the party here.
Don't listen to him, Ramon. Welcome back
to the lab. It's good to have you here,
Ramon. Happy birthday.
What's up, guys? How are you doing?
Happy birthday, Ramon. Thank you. How
are you? How's it going?
>> Is that you in there?
That was me, John. That was me. That's
your baby boy in there. I was getting in
some rounds in with the sumo guy. Let me
tell you something, that guy was [ __ ]
awesome, man. He was awesome. I went to
this My wife took me to a sumo and sushi
event and that surprised me with being
up there in the ring. And let me tell
you something, that guy he was built
like a tank. He might look like a
pillow, but he's built like a tank.
So, okay. So, that was like at a
restaurant where you could get up and
and almost like
It kind of was So, it was a nice event
that they have is a traveling I wouldn't
not like traveling circus, but it's a
event that travels around. It's called
sumo and sushi. They go to New York,
Philadelphia, San Diego. They kind of
tour They Yeah, they tour around.
Yeah, yeah. Those events are in Japan,
dude. That is like the top of the top
sports. Oh, yeah. Let me tell you
something, this guy, right? So, his name
is Ryu. According to like his profile
that they had, he's like the equivalent
of a D1 wrestler in Japan.
Yeah.
>> So, so so whatever the the Japanese D1
colleges, that's what this guy was. And
super nice, super cool, you know, so we
kind of played around a little bit. But
like I tell you, he is built like a
tank, my man. I thought, you know, the
cool part about it cuz what I really
wanted to experience was just that that
that force of the sumo. So, you know,
when I was trying to push him here and
there's one part where he actually puts
his body on me. I was like, "Wow, this
guy is like a linebacker."
Yeah, for sure. You know, but
Akebono, if if you know sumo.
>> Yes. Yes. Grand champion. He was a buddy
of mine before, you know, when I met him
over there, we hit it off. We
go to his restaurant. He just passed a
few years ago, which is really sad.
Yeah. But yeah, he was he was
like when I got to talk to him and
understand more about sumo, I mean it
when when you're in that high league,
when you're in that top league, you get
a [ __ ] retirement. What?
Yeah, a full [ __ ] retirement. Yeah,
so check this
Akebono.
I mean he was massive, you know, 6'8,
[ __ ] 500 some pounds. I mean he was just
a god over there.
And he was so he became kind of bigger
than than sumo. Restaurants and
appearances and movies and [ __ ]
Check this out.
He got a tattoo. He knew this was
coming. He chose to do it. He got a
tattoo.
Right? That breaks the rules of sumo.
They [ __ ] turned off his retirement.
Really? Yeah,
that just shows how strict and
traditional the roots of that go. So
when I was doing this thing, the first
part of the hour they talk about just
like the tradition and like the honor of
being like a sumo wrestler, which is
very true to what you were saying, John.
I mean these guys are not just seen as
athletes, but they're seen as like
pillars of their community. 100%. You
know so
they go through that whole process and
and it's it's a it's kind of like the
modern day samurai to a certain degree.
You know, there's a certain code,
there's a certain honor that you go
about it. Like it's as much a religious
experience because there's the whole
thing going to the ring and you got to
bless the ring and this whole you know,
pomp and circumstance before you get to
the actual event. But let me tell you
something. It It was a It was an honor
to kind of share that moment with him
and just kind of being in the ring and
just seeing a different perspective of a
sport. Cuz you know, people now they
they they look at sumo and they kind of
see it comical with like oh, fat guys
with like diapers. They just
They just They just don't understand.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hanging
out with Ramon Velas myself and John
Anderson this morning on Mornings with
Live with Keith John and friends. Johnny
is so Ramon was on our show on Friday
and then we grabbed coffee and he was
like, "Dude, I've never experienced
anything like that before." And we were
talking about it and he was very kind
with his accolades and then we were
shooting the [ __ ] and talking over the
weekend and and I said, "Hey, you know,
it's like hey, my birthday coming up."
I'm like, "Dude, why don't you come
back?" So, I said, "Drop in." I said,
"I'll surprise Anderson." So, and then
he sends in the video of Anderson him
[ __ ] wrestling. I'm like, "Oh, this
is going to be awesome." So, so Ramon's
a fan. We're going to bring him back I
think on on a regular basis to to tune
into stuff and I've been talking off
show with Ramon on a few things as well.
But, I thought to bring him in to hang
out with us for a few minutes before we
bring the lightning man in. Hey guys,
>> He had one statement that [ __ ] told
me that he understood what we were
doing. He's like, "Well, you just you
push him until I can't remember the
exact wording. You push him until they
choke and you back up
then you double down." I was like, "Hey,
you just explained the whole [ __ ]
capture of the audience in one [ __ ]
simple sentence.
I like this guy."
Yeah, me too. Hey, so Johnny, we've been
watching Thor's journey to I guess his
world record coming up in May at the
enhanced games. Got another video clip
thrown in the tail here. It's where this
epic spot 470 kg dead. Check this out,
Johnny. I'd like to get your your I love
getting your your color commentary on
it. Here's Thor doing a man 470 the 470
dead. And that's actually his training
facility in Iceland right there, too.
Oh, is that where it is, eh? Yeah,
interesting. So, he's I I know I I just
assumed Let's do a little test on your
verbage, Keith. What is that bar called?
Oh, is that an elephant bar? That's an
elephant bar. Good job.
>> That is Oh, no [ __ ] yeah. So, could you
tell because it looks so long?
Yes, it well, I mean, he's not because
the world he's only going to be pulling
on the bar. He's going to be pulling a
break the world record and he it's it's
the elephant bar is a part of what
allows that much weight to go up. As
we've discussed in the past, like when
you watch him pull,
that bar will give him 4 in of bend in
the bar before the weights leave the
ground. That little bit of That changes
the game. If that bar didn't bend, Yes.
it would be It literally would be a
different world. That's the world record
on on It's kind of like an open class
world record.
>> Oh, yeah, because there's no give,
right? It's just a Yeah, I understand
that.
>> So, this one has give. If you went to a
non-elephant, like I think what they
used to call it a Texas power bar. Now,
they change all the names, but that
[ __ ] dude, there was nothing. No
[ __ ]
>> Yeah, it didn't [ __ ] There was so
little bend. I mean, when I say nothing,
you had to have like 900 lb on it to
bend it. Back in those days, nobody was
pulling 900.
He told the Ramones about it. He just
posted an image of this one. He did not
actually do the lift. He He posted it a
little bit later. But then I threw this
one on here. Ramon, Keith, and John were
talking yesterday. On Saturday, Brock
hung him up. And John, check this clip
out, man, because here's a And you might
understand this from being in the ring,
but apparently when they show the X,
watch him show the X. Watch Brock give
the X to Heyman. That's to say, no
script. This is real, apparently, John.
That's what I was told, which is the X
tells tells your partner that this is
not This is off script. This is now real
life right now, Anderson.
Yeah, and the only reason he did this
cuz he having a hard time talking.
Oh, yeah. Okay. He was Yeah, he You
know, at that point, he's just Heyman
knows right away he was talking,
you know. Yes.
Yeah, that that This moment moves me,
man, because he just It's like he's
communicating to say, "Okay, I I've made
my decision, right?" And then they have
a big hug and embrace, and he's crying.
And Ramon, do you watch wrestling, by
any chance? So, I I do watch wrestling,
and I I kind of fell off a little bit,
but I I I enjoy wrestling. Brock's one
of my favorites. I I must say my
all-time favorite is the Heartbreak Kid,
Shawn Michaels, by far.
I love me some Shawn Michaels, and Bret
the Hitman Hart. Those were like my two
main guys. Brock, I I Oh,
Randy Orton is one of my also favorites.
So, yeah, I I kind of go deep in the
well. I haven't watched it recently, so
I'm a little I'm a little off on the
current stories, but I enjoy it. That's
awesome.
>> You know what's [ __ ] crazy about
that? Yeah.
So, that stadium, I don't know how many
people that [ __ ] holds, but it's big.
Allegiance, yeah, about 85,000? Yeah,
and that they the Wrestlemanias are
[ __ ] pretty much sold out, right?
>> Yes.
>> And you're talking about that ring is
basically 20 by 20, you know, give or
it's I don't remember the exact
measurement in the center of this
[ __ ] thing. Yeah, yeah. How little
that is compared to that ring?
>> Yes. Oh, yeah. And then it's like that
many people
showing up to watch an ant. two Yes.
people in the [ __ ] ring. I mean, it's
talk about these the WWE has
is like literally created a new level of
[ __ ] putting butts in seats. They've
been doing this They've been doing this
>> Go ahead. They haven't done it once,
they do it twice now. Cuz Wrestlemania's
a two-day event now. two-day event
Totally. And and they and they've been
selling these [ __ ] out back, you
know, I think I mean, they've been doing
selling these things out and they've
sold out over 100,000 people, I believe,
in Wrestlemania. You know how hard that
is to do?
Unbelievable.
>> It's phenomenal to watch. I mean, I've
been to a couple of live events and I
could say from that alone, it's it's a
phenomenal event. It's loud as all hell,
let me tell you that much. But it it is
phenomenal with the pyrotechnics, the
lighting, and then the actual event
itself. It It's It's a great show to
watch, and I think, you know, the WWE
has really solidified that that
entertainment in in that genre. It's a
John, I want to ask cuz I I I've heard
you you used to do some professional
wrestling. What What was your finisher,
John? Did you have a finisher? Yeah, so
it's a because you have to kind of I
mean
you could choose one that everybody
knows, but to have your own tailored
one. So, it was it was called the
strongman slam. Okay. Cuz that was my
name was strong was base I came from
strength world, so my name was
strongman. Okay.
>> John strongman Anderson. And basically,
think of like a a Samoan drop but
instead of having them on your back I
had them up on the shoulders. Oh, okay.
>> His his belly button would have been
like right here. You know what I mean?
So I pick him up, you know, get him you
know and I could get him like when
they're you know all [ __ ] up on the
ground I get him up they're just still
[ __ ] over like this or bent over I
just stick my stick my head in and up
they go. I grab grab an arm grab a foot
up they go turn towards the [ __ ] hard
camera and
We got an eye coming up after a
lightning strike triggered a total
neurological collapse. This former
adventure photographer Johnny he
survived by using live honeybees to
literally sting himself back to health
coming up in a few moments. We got John
Fulbright in the lab joining myself and
John this morning I'm morning to love.
Right now we're hanging out with Ramon
Velas. It is his birthday today. Happy
birthday brother. He's a 30
37 years old I think he is today.
[ __ ] actually 49.
47 actually. Oh yeah, look at you. Go
look at you. But I'll I'll take 37 that
works.
>> go. There you go. Hey where where are
you right now? Are you are you are you
in front of a green screen or in your
backyard? I'm lounging in the backyard
man. I'm I'm taking a day off today. I'm
taking in the the sun and just relaxing
enjoy 47 with a nice relaxing morning.
Well listen there was some folks sitting
in the yard like yours that were Well
Kyle let's let's just run this clip.
Check this out man. Johnny imagine
sitting in the backyard or sitting in
your house and the next thing you know
this lands in your backyard unexpectedly
some folks in Temecula, John with their
ring camera there was some folks hot air
ballooning overhead and they needed to
land.
So they landed in the guy's backyard.
How did they get that thing down there?
I know.
I'm surprised it didn't end up in a
tree. So it was an emergency and the guy
navigated right there. Like Johnny to
your point I was like holy [ __ ] how did
they Look at the tree that he's
basically part of the balloon touching
the tree.
>> Yeah, that's crazy, man. Just like So, I
I I'm not hot air balloon to start with,
but then when I see things like this,
no, thank you. Ramon, you hot air
balloon before? I I My wife tried to get
me to hot air balloon, and I was like,
"Baby, no." There's There's certain
things I can do, but that hot air
balloon
I love it. I love it. Well, listen,
Ramon, what do you got going on today,
brother? You're taking the day off?
We're going to We're going to keep our
show rocking and rolling with John
Fulbright. What do you got going on
today, brother? I'm not doing much. My
daughter's going to take me out for for
lunch, and I'm just going to enjoy the
day and just relax. So, it's it's going
to be a fun day overall. I'm starting it
off great with you guys, and I'm going
to end it off strong. So, thank you very
much for having me.
>> Awesome. So much fun talking to my
brother. Great to see you. So much fun,
man. So much fun. Thanks for playing
along with me today. I'm glad we're
texting. Let's keep in touch and chat
later, okay? Yes, sir. Talk to you
later. Have a good one, guys. Awesome.
Ramon's out of here. Keith and John
hanging out. We got John Fulbright
joining us here in a quick minute. John,
I thought you'd enjoy that, man. I've
been I've been talking
>> Yeah, that was cool. That was really
cool. I've been talking with Ramon, and
he did He's like He said to me, he's
like, "You guys are making some stuff
that I haven't seen before." And he's
showing it to some of his colleagues,
and I'm like, "Yeah." Well, see, here's
the thing. Hearing that from that dude,
that means the industry I mean, when you
hear you hear it from just a normal guy,
well, [ __ ] it. Of course YOU HAVE IT.
BUT THIS IS A GUY WHO UNDERSTANDS the
landscape. He works in the business.
He's like, "You guys are doing [ __ ] It's
a totally different compliment.
>> Yeah, exactly, exactly. All right,
speaking of doing things nobody's doing,
this guy did something that I Well,
listen, he's a storm chaser, been struck
by lightning. His name's John Fulbright,
and the man who let bees sting him back
to life, and now he helps thousands do
the same. Kai, Jimmy, let's run the
clip. Sophia Grant, Keith Bellas, John
Anderson, and John Fulbright this
morning on Mornings in the Live.
He built his life in the wildest places
on Earth, mountains, rivers, desert
canyons. John spent 35 plus years as a
wilderness guide, adventure consultant,
and professional photographer. His
office was wherever most people turn
around. Then in In
lightning found him. Not the kind he was
watching through a lens, the kind that
changes everything. That strike cracked
open something he'd been carrying since
age 12, a dormant Lyme disease from a
childhood tick bite. He lost 60 lb, Lyme
plus four co-infections. His nervous
system was being taken apart piece by
piece, and then he hit a wall nobody
talks about, the kind where you stop
wanting to live. Doctors had nothing
left. Every conventional option had been
tried. He was on his own. That's when he
found Hoshindo, Japanese meridian
therapy. Live bee venom along the body's
meridian points. The bees did what
medicine couldn't. He came back, not to
the man he was before, something more.
Today, he works globally bringing
Hoshindo to patients who've been told
there's nothing left, the ones medicine
gave up on. Last thing, his childhood
superhero was Shazam, a kid transformed
by lightning. He lived that story, and
he still photographs lightning. John,
welcome to Mornings in the Lab. We're
happy to have you here today.
John after a lightning strike triggered
a total neurological collapse, this
former adventure photographer survived
by using live honeybees to literally
sting himself back to health, and we are
fortunate to have him here this morning
in the lab. We've got John Fulbright in
the lab, a man who survived lightning
and still chases a storm.
Let's bring him up, John Fulbright this
morning on Mornings in the Lab.
>> a mic. What's going on here?
I got to start right away, brother. What
Explain this is I'm I'm in question, so
I have them. By the way, great to have
you here. How are you today, brother?
I'm just if if I'm wondering, I'm
thinking that our our listeners are too.
Define the full neurological collapse.
Yeah.
Oh, I think we're having some audio
John, can you hear us? John Fulbright,
can you hear us?
He I think he came in and spoke, so he
he uh
Yeah, we can have some So So, John, can
you hear us okay here? You We We got We
we heard you when you first came in the
room there.
Yeah, he's not hearing. No. All right,
so Jimmy will call will bring him off
stage for right now. We'll bring up John
in a quick second here while he's
getting his audio set.
>> What is that? That's I mean that's I've
never heard of that. I mean if I've
heard that, I definitely haven't
attached definition to it. Yes, let's
ask it. Hey Grok, what is that what is
So we're talking about a full
neurological collapse. What does that
mean?
A full neurological collapse means your
entire nervous system basically short
circuits.
In John's case, the lightning strike
woke up dormant lines that had been
sitting there since he was a kid and
together they wrecked his nerves. He
lost 60 lb, had constant pain, numbness,
weakness, brain fog, and eventually got
to a place where he didn't even want to
live anymore.
Doctors were out of answers.
That's when he turned to live beam and
limb therapy.
Want me to pull up that hot air balloon
clip from earlier while we're waiting on
him? No, we're good. Thanks, Grok.
That's That's interesting cuz if it woke
up, like it's saying woke up nerves or I
think she said lines that had been
asleep or whatever she said, you'd think
that'd be a positive thing.
Yeah, well it's so it's so and I guess
the neurological Lyme disease as well.
Let's let's try him up here again.
Nakayla, let's bring him up here again.
John, have we got you?
John?
He looks content sitting there. Yeah,
mine
He's just sitting there waiting. I don't
think he I don't think he knows he's
been brought up.
All right, Jimmy, we'll we'll knock John
Fullbright there. Hey John, if you can
hear me, head on over to the private
chat there. We we're the producers are
helping you out there on the in the
private chat to get you to get you
organized out there this morning. Hey
Johnny, how was your day yesterday? What
did you do yesterday?
What I do? Let's see here. I had a good
morning, good nap, good filming, Yeah.
great workout, Yeah. went and hung out
with my brother a little bit. He He down
here cuz I'm not going to see he he I
won't see him before we leave. So I just
wanted to hang out with him a little
bit. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah, we had kind of a fun conversation
about Terry's got this thing going and
he's actually got a lot of information.
So it's kind of fun. And I love to talk
to him about stuff he likes to talk
about cuz it really raised his spirits,
you know, and he's
You know, he's he's he's definitely in
kind of a struggling part of his life
with what he's going on with his with
his cuz he had a brain brain tumor, you
know. Anyway, He told me that. Yes, yes.
Anyway, so cuz Terry's got this thing
for us. She She really wants to get her
pilot's license.
And so
we're looking into doing that. And so I
was just talking to him about, you know,
airplanes and pilot's license. It just,
you know, he lit up like a Roman candle,
which was good. So it was nice to see
him really feeling happy before I left.
Did you say Terry wants to get her
pilot's license? Yeah. Oh, very cool. No
[ __ ] Yeah.
Yeah, it would be cuz it It's come from
journey. Like where does her interest in
that come from?
Probably
knowing that she can do whatever the
[ __ ] she wants whenever she wants.
No, but that's that's pretty cool
though, man. Like just because I you
know, not everybody wants to be a pilot.
So to have some interest in that and
curiosity in that She's always She She
doesn't like She gets She gets bored.
And she doesn't like to be bored, which
I totally get, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. You know, her whole life was
kind of interesting because when
when I came into her life and the kids
were gone,
you know,
and she always Excuse me. She always
worked because she liked what she did.
Yeah. Trying to people stuff. But then
when kids were gone, I was like, "Right,
babe. Well, listen.
You don't have to [ __ ] anymore, you
know? Your [ __ ] American Express has
no [ __ ] limit. You know, enjoy life."
And that was sounded great, but she it
left her with these [ __ ] voids of
like Uh yes, yes. massive interest was
gone cuz the kids were massive interest.
Yes. And so she's kind of bounced around
with, you know, different stuff that
she's investigated and liked and then
she does has things that she does, but
you know, being a parent monopolizes
absolutely.
She just is taking interest in that and
then I
I start thinking I'm like, [ __ ] this
would be pretty cool because we have
actually have a
an airport like 10 minutes from our
house.
>> Yeah, well cuz then you told me where
where where your where your where your
gated community is didn't you say to me
when we first started kind of hanging
out and spending time together? Didn't
you say that your gated community has
some folks with I don't say runways
inside of it but
>> tried to put a [ __ ] runway just
outside the [ __ ] fence. Yes. You just
you look at it's right in front of my
[ __ ] house. You can see the
They actually had the cats out there and
they knocked it down.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what it
was. It was a [ __ ] homeowners got in
the [ __ ] way. Okay. It was a
liability. Yeah, yeah. Because it's on
the homeowners land and so anyway,
but the airport's [ __ ] 10 minutes
away because then you can you can it's
anyway so
I thought [ __ ] this would be pretty cool
if we
if we end up if she got her license we
had an airplane. We could go see friends
for a weekend. You just get in the
rather than you know, spending
you know, 6 hours in a car you're in
there for [ __ ] 90 minutes.
>> 100% Oh, [ __ ] yeah. Yeah, I'd say hey
Johnny, why don't you and Terry come for
dinner? Just flying up over the border.
I realize you know, an airplane's 100%
write off which I'm going to be looking
for you know, to cover myself for this
year for sure. Yeah. And then then my so
my brother actually has the idea. He's
like, look he goes here's here's what a
lot of people do. Just think about this
I this is all [ __ ] brand new to me.
You know. That's pretty cool, man.
>> He's like he's like look he goes if you
buy her a starter airplane cuz she's
going to [ __ ] land it hard. She's you
know, you don't want to buy the ones you
want
now because it's like it's like buying
your which I made the mistake. I bought
I bought our [ __ ] kids, you know,
[ __ ] Porsches and Mercedes for their
first cars and they [ __ ] trashed them
not on purpose. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They
just they need a car with a if they run
into [ __ ] it's not a big deal. It's not
a, you know, a $4,000 fairing you got to
replace, you know.
>> You know what's crazy how, you know, we
just you we talk and stories come up and
we share life stories and we just and
things just weave in. So, dude, you tell
me Terry wants to be a pilot with her
own airplane. John Fullbright, I hear
you, brother. We'll bring you up in a in
a couple minutes here. I So, Johnny,
when I was going to college in Kelowna,
I went to college in in Kelowna, British
Columbia for for a year and there was a
flight school there and I had a buddy
who's getting his pilot's license.
So, I'm 21 years old,
you know,
young, dumb, and full of [ __ ] and no
[ __ ] no good decisions ever being
made. He's like, "Hey, I got to get my
flying hours in. You want to come flying
with me?"
Yeah. So, [ __ ] you're not supposed to
do that when he's getting his license.
Yeah. So, I'm He's supposed to know
that. So, I'm up there flying with him
and he's like, "Hey, do you want to pull
the yoke?" Yeah. So, he's like, "Okay,
we're going to do dead stalls." So, we
climb up Christ, dude. Yeah. So, we
climb up over top like Big Bear in
Kelowna. Like there's a some mountain
top. He climb up, you go, "Okay, we're
going to dead stall it." And he [ __ ]
dead stall it and we
And then we start it up again and he go,
"Okay, okay, take the yoke and pull the
yoke and go back up again." And I think
about it now as a 54-year-old man
and if my son came to me and said, "Hey,
Dad, I'm going to go do some flying
hours with my buddy and we're going to
do some dead stalls." I'd be like, "What
are you [ __ ] doing, man?" So, yeah,
there was all
>> Yeah, that's not that's not a break your
leg accident. No. That's a That's a
break your life. Your life is over
accident. dumb. Like when I think about
it, but the yoke just fun. So, when you
said to the Terry, I'm like, "Oh, God, I
got to drop some to Johnny." Cuz I
remember like it was yesterday. Rob
Gallagher and he's like, "Hey, he's
like, Keith, he's like, you know, we
could fly home with us weekend to go see
your family." I'm like, "No, I'm okay.
I'll just stay home." Cuz we had to go
fly in the mountains and everything.
>> on that level, you know, cuz this guy
clearly was not managing not managing
danger properly.
>> No, he didn't, actually.
>> Terry's got like she has like the
in almost every situation I can think
of, yeah, she fears for her existence or
her life way before it enters my radar.
Oh, yeah. There is
There is No, she's not going to take
[ __ ] chances. That's just That's not
her, you know. Oh, well, I'll tell you
who wasn't taking chances. He's got his
audio sorted out, Johnny. Let's bring
him up. Johnny Fulbright, the guy who
was struck by lightning and brought
himself back to life with bees. Johnny
Fulbright, you're shaking. How you
doing, Dobbs? Good morning. Nice to have
you. Thank you for having me on here.
Yes, thank you. You were joining us from
today besides in the green screen clouds
of lightning. Where are you coming from
today? Taos, New Mexico. Nicely done.
Yeah. So, tell us your story. You're
struck by lightning. Bees save you.
Period.
Yeah. That You know, it's a funny story,
for sure. I didn't Like a lot of Lyme
patients, actually. So, hold on. You
said Lyme, like as in L Y like Lyme
disease, right? Lyme disease, yeah,
exactly. Oh, Johnny, that's what it is.
Okay. So, when I was 12, I got bit by
ticks, got sick, didn't know that it
would be a long-term thing. My immune
system seemed to hold it in place for
years. In 2004, after getting hit by
lightning, burning my insides like your
Basically, my system fell apart. And by
the time I realized in 2014 that I was
dying of Lyme, I was disabled, fully
suicidal. What?
>> Basically, 50 different symptoms,
couldn't sleep, tremors, no memory.
What?
>> Heart palpitations, couldn't smell,
couldn't sleep. Just my immune system
was in collapse. And then when I found
out I had Lyme, I was like, "No way.
That I haven't had anything to do with
ticks since I was like a kid." And it
was just kind of the gift of the
lightning. And so, having spent 10 years
recovering from lightning, I wasn't
about to just start eating handfuls of
antibiotics. And In doing my research, I
just basically was looking for
solutions. And a And a friend of mine
said, "Well, there's this woman in New
Mexico that
uses this ancient Japanese method called
Hoshindo, which is essentially
acupuncture with honey bee venom.
And we Yeah, there's some killer [ __ ]
and ancients and like the thing that
that the things that we forget about are
unbelievable.
Well, exactly. And you know, this is
used daily today in China and Korea and
all throughout a lot of Asia still and
it is just one of the most powerful
things ever. And when I actually
>> sure pharma helped us forget about this
cuz it works and it's not it doesn't
help their subscription model. Well, you
know, exactly. It's a very affordable
thing. Like when I was at my worst, I
called a a center in Arizona and for the
symptoms I had, they said it'd be about
$300,000 cash to get IV drip antibiotics
for maybe 9 months. And there was just
no way I could afford it. They didn't
take insurance. And so, I thought, well,
I have nothing to lose. I better try
this bee thing even though I thought it
was honestly ridiculous. Well, what what
have you got to lose, huh? Well, I had
nothing to lose. I was already I went
from you know, being very capable
outdoor athlete to not being able to
lift my brand new little baby out of her
crib. And I basically
as soon as I tried the bees, I couldn't
believe it. Within 2 hours after my
first treatment, I went back to the
river. I hadn't kayaked in 2 years and I
was able to start doing flips and all
kinds of tricks again like I hadn't
missed a day. And that was about 11
years ago and now I've got, you know,
thousands of patients throughout the
world that I coach. And this is just one
of the most powerful things that you can
use because, you know, bee venom is
water soluble, it's all natural and
because it's water soluble, it goes
through every cell in the body. So, it's
not
>> Well, brother, what was the timeline
that you were that that you were not
functioning the way you that you should
have before you from from the accident
to the the bee treatment? What was that
timeline? How much of your life was
that? About 11 years of slowly getting
worse and not knowing what it was. Wow.
Wow. You know what's You know what's
crazy Anderson is that and Fulbright
that you know it seems like over the
last whatever half dozen or so years
there's been this
constant stream of celebrities who have
this Lyme disease. And and then and then
I read a story that it was actually why
are celebs getting Lyme disease all
time? It's like because I guess when
folks have some bucks they get off the
they get off the normal path go off the
well beaten path into places where
there's ticks. And the next thing you
know they're being bit they're not even
being noticed by it and then time goes
by Avril Lavigne wakes up or was it
Bieber? There's there's folks who wake
up going what's wrong with me? Oh yeah.
Timberlake all these guys.
What's that What's that pro Fulbright?
Well like you know Justin Timberlake all
these different celebrities you know if
you look where it's really bad it's
actually most of north the northern
hemisphere of the globe. So right now
the estimates worldwide are one in seven
have one of 130 infections of a tick
borne disease and don't even realize it.
So I live in Manitoba ticks are bad
around here brother. Guys I I and it's
it's crazy when I when I see these
little things I [ __ ] hate them man.
They're just so gross dirty and gross.
And they're so teeny.
Well they burrow into you man. Yeah.
All it takes is one bite and these
things can dump in one bite they can
dump half a dozen different infections
inside you that are very stealth and
they disarm the immune system and they
start to propagate throughout your
system and they're and they're these
subtle things like oh my joints hurt oh
my muscles hurt. I'm getting cramping.
I'm not seeing so well. Like with me and
the Lyme I I literally was seeing
double. I was trembling. I had heart
palpitations you know thousands of extra
heartbeats a day. I wasn't sure I was
going to live to to see my kids grow up.
And and when you look at what happens on
a cellular level when you You
antibiotics and Chinese medicine which
is the roots of Hoshindo, it's five
elements theory and you have your basic
five elements of that the fire makes
earth. Earth is what we mine for metal
or minerals. Yeah. Minerals is what
attracts water. It's the mother of water
and then water feeds wood. Wood then
again feeds fire. So this five element,
those are the basics of all the
meridians and acupoints. So all the all
the organs in the body have a river and
when you look at the elements, Chinese
medicine and looks at things like
pharmaceutical drugs as flamethrowers or
fire and it's kind of when it gets in
the system, the organisms sense the
antibiotics and then burrow deep into
your bones and your brain and hide. And
with bee venom, because it's water
soluble and it has an affinity for every
cell in the body through the calcium
channels, which is like your inner
electricity, which is kind of funny
about lightning and the venom follows
these cellular waves. So when we start
doing treatments on people, one of the
things we'll notice right away is people
get goosebumps and their electrical
system starts
ticking and the the cells get excited on
a very teeny level and this starts to
detox. And then people get swollen lymph
and they begin to actually really get
what's called a Herxheimer reaction. And
bee venom is just so gentle and because
it's all plant-based medicine with the
bees, it's just unbelievable. I mean, I
literally went from disabled to able to
kayak in in minutes.
No [ __ ]
But I needed more treatments, you know.
So okay, so yeah, from, you know,
noon on this day, I'm just making a the
kind of a a Yeah. Joke here. Noon, you
you can't do [ __ ]
One, you're [ __ ] running like you
haven't done in 11 years. Describe
whatever that treatment was. What was it
exactly that made that change, as you
say, in minutes?
It was venom from the bee. We used
typically in a treatment, people can't
take a lot of venom. We go very slow
because we don't want to create a
tsunami of die-off coming out of the
cells and
clogging up lymph glands. And so, my
teacher was very safe about that. She
She did three bees on me throughout my
body. Each bee, she know, we pulled the
stinger from the bee and then we use it
as as like little droplets of venom on
acupoints.
>> Wow. So So, you're not actually getting
stung by the bee?
Not directly. Now, we we do do that once
people are used to the venom. And when I
was at my sickest, I would use 30 bees
every other day all throughout my body.
I'd use five full bees in my head. I'd
use 20 up and down my spine. And then
I'd use some in my lower legs, my
abdomen, and then, you know, up to 30
bees. Now, that's quite a lot. Most
people don't do that. We'll work people
up from one bee to five bees to maybe 10
bees every other day.
And a lot of protocols you may see
online, they work focus mostly on the
spine. But again, this isn't always
necessary. It can burn out your adrenals
and exhaust the body. So, one of the
things about Hoshindo is that we're just
constantly bringing the body back into
balance. Just like acupuncture, but
instead of needles as the stimulus,
we're using the venom of the bee.
And because, you know, bee venom, when
you look at the research, it's primarily
neurologic. So, it restores your nervous
system and in that, it restores the
immune system.
And it's just unbelievable. Uh you know,
I didn't try to target each of the
different infections. I just did lots of
bees. And so, basically, I would use 30
bees every other day. And that continued
for at least a year. And then after that
first year, I could start doing less,
maybe 20 bees every other day.
And that went on for another couple
years. And then now, you know, I don't
really need a lot of venom. So, what So,
what happens if you missed your 20-bee
day?
My system would just start falling apart
again. I would tremor. I would shake. I
would start losing my vision again.
>> All from missing a single day.
Not always. Like in the beginning, like
I went to I did 11 days in a row, which
normally again most people don't do, but
I wasn't reacting very bad and I was
detoxing every day kayaking. So, I
literally would would do 20 30 B's
and then I'd go kayak and I would wear
my waterproof top and then I'd take that
off at the end of the day and it
literally would smell like ammonia.
Just
it would make my eyes water. All the
poisons coming out of my skin. You know
that's interesting because a lot of
times brother when I when I when I not
so much now as I'm older, when I was
younger, I would often smell like
ammonia when I would train. That's
>> Well, and you know when you eat a lot of
protein, one of the biggest things
that's created when you eat protein when
it digests is ammonia. And the liver
through the Krebs cycle is pulling
ammonia out and getting it into your
urine so you can pee it away. One of the
things that Lyme seems to do is clog up
the cellular detox. So, most people not
only are they sick from the infections,
they're sick cuz they're so clogged up
that their normal digestive toxins are
toxifying their body. That makes you
know, I always thought that was detox,
but I never really knew for sure. I mean
it would There was There was a period
probably a 15-year period where shirts
we would have to throw them away because
as soon as they got moist, that [ __ ]
ammonia smell would come out so strong
people would ask What is wrong with you?
>> Well, exactly and you know this we see
this a lot with patients too with Lyme.
Like I had a friend, he was skiing,
amazing skier, had tick bites, history
of tick bites, didn't know anything
about it. He was skiing for a Warren
Miller movie, broke his leg, next thing
you know, they said you're dying of
liver toxicity and you're an alcoholic.
And he's like, "But I don't drink." And
what they figured out they they ended up
taking his blood to Nigeria to a
disaster to a disease expert and that
doctor basically described that he had
Lyme disease. And so, one of the big
common things with Lyme is once you're
once you're packing a big infection, it
destroys the liver and it really affects
your ability to clean yourself. So,
internally, you just get this extremely
dirty fishbowl. So, it's really most
people are, you know, underestimate the
level of detox you need with a thing
like Lyme disease. But, that's really I
mean, all these celebrities that are
going to, you know, the Hamptons and
Montauk and out there, those are endemic
areas where there's ticks everywhere.
Wow. Hey,
what happens to a guy that uses this bee
therapy that doesn't have Lyme's?
All kinds of amazing things, you know,
as long as you're not allergic. So, we
go very slow to make sure nobody's
allergic. We keep, you know, lots of
EpiPens and antihistamines around. But,
what what the most common thing I find
with people I, you know, I was treating
Parkinson's the other day. This guy's
like
within seconds, he was walking like he
hadn't walked in 11 years.
And he was just in tears at the joy of
being able to do He did literally two
bee stingers and he was able to glide
across the room and walk smooth again.
Something that hadn't happened in 10
years. So, I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
just making some interesting questions
here for obviously So, if you've been
stung by a bee before and you're not
allergic, you If you're allergic, you
know correct?
Not always. I have had a few reactions.
One of them actually was in my own child
and there can be days where you'll have
a histamine overload, which isn't really
an allergic reaction, but it is a
overload of histamines. And with my
daughter, for example, she had a major
reaction and a week later, we just
started adding more venom again very
slowly and she's been fine for years
now. No big deal. So, again, it's it's
And you know, in ancient China, they
refer to bee venom medicine as dragon
medicine because bees are dragons. They
live in the trees. They're they're these
mysterious little benevolent creatures
that could harm you. I just had a really
good friend, a beekeeper professional,
has about 8,000 hives, and his wife went
to Southern Texas to one of their
houses, and the neighbor had had raised
bees, and then he let the bees go wild,
and in the Southern states of the United
States, we get these Africanized bees,
which are incredible bees. They're
little, they're aggressive, and they
don't need medications to kill the
mites, and these things are survivors.
And what happens when you have European
honeybees being taken over by an
Africanized queen, they get very
aggressive, and these this this friend
of mine, his wife, they let the dogs
outside, and three of her dogs were
covered in thousands of bees. She went
to protect the dogs and got over 100
stings, and they all ended up in the
hospital. The three dogs, unfortunately,
passed away. Holy [ __ ] And I mean, so,
you know, in the Southern states, killer
honeybees are a real thing now. They've
migrated up from South America, came
over from Africa, and these are just
incredible bees, but again, what we do,
if we find wild hives of Africanized
bees, we get the queen, we kill her,
and then we add a European queen to that
hive, and within 6 weeks, they're going
to be docile bees, cuz whatever the
queen is like, the rest of the bees are
like.
>> Yeah, yeah. Interesting. And so, if I go
if I go out today, I find some bees,
some honeybees, like docile bees,
and I get stung,
and I I go purposely go get stung. I've
I've been stung before. It's all I
notice is it [ __ ] hurts.
Yeah, it does. It hurts. I get stung
with the open idea that [ __ ] this might
actually help something, what might I
notice, or is am I just being ridiculous
in my thought process? No, it's totally
true. Within seconds, typ- typically,
people notice a deep sense of
relaxation, almost euphoria.
And then what we start to see is if they
have any sort of neurologic issues, like
tremors, the tremors start to fade. You
might see deep mental clarity, and then
one of the thing biggest things that
I've seen studies on that I've been
doing myself a lot of my patients have
an aura ring
their sleep gets incredibly deep and
then they recall their memories
>> [ __ ] stung by a bee? Yeah, it it's
like a neurological reset. I treat a lot
of veterans with PTSD. There's points
for relaxation. There's points to
stimulate recovery. There's points
>> you're talking about points like you
have to put it a certain I'm just
talking about finding a way to piss a
bee off to sting me.
Yeah, and you may not notice as much
like if I was to take a bee and pull the
stinger and do like six to 10 points
throughout your body, you would
definitely notice from that one bee a
systemic effect. Now, if you just go out
and get wildly stung by bees, you're
going to notice some benefits, but you
might look like SpongeBob if they stung
you all over your face or something. So,
I mean how many how many bees cuz I mean
bro, I'll ship it. I'll go [ __ ] find
a bee and piss him off and get stung.
I'm just curious what what am I looking
for? I mean I've been stung plenty of
times. I'm pretty confident I'm not
allergic. Right. You know, the thing
that I would I would definitely advise
against that because we want to have
antihistamines around liquid
antihistamines, EpiPens just because
anybody could have a major reaction,
especially if you're on if you're on
immune suppressors or steroids. You want
there's a few things you don't want to
interact with venom. But generally, what
you're going to notice when you do a bit
of venom, especially if you do any on
the head or any of your healthy, you're
going to have a lot more mental clarity.
Now, I've had a several friends. One was
in a very bad car accident. He had a
coup contre coup side impact injury.
After 6 months of recovery, his life was
still disabled. He wasn't able to think
well. He was foggy. He didn't have a lot
of energy. He couldn't really interact
with noise or people or music. It was
just too distracting. We did three bees
on this character and literally he he
went back to the point of accident.
Muscle spasticity, he could hardly walk.
But by morning, he woke up feeling
incredibly refreshed, clear as a bell,
and he went for his first run in 6
months.
And this is a good friend of mine that
he he was able to go back to work as a
ski patroller. And it's just you just
venom when you start to see what it can
do for people, it should be in every
emergency room in the United States. If
somebody came in after a car accident,
you do an allergy test, a little teeny
bit of venom can restore brain function
on a level that is just I've just never
seen anything like it. We're talking
venom with myself, Bill Anderson, and
our guest this morning, John Fulbright,
on Mornings in the Lab with Keith, John,
and friends. Hey Fulbright, I got to
tell you, man, I got a gazillion
questions, perhaps a little bit of
skepticism. I got
I got the resident [ __ ] professor
being curious who got we got we got we
got our we got our resident BS professor
in the lab here who's always curious
about things. Here's what I want to
extend an invite to you. We got we got
our resident relationship expert, Briana
Baste, joining us here in a couple
minutes. How to fight fair in
relationships. We got that conversation
starting shortly. John, I'd like to have
you come back. Dude, I want to have you
come back. I want to continue this chat
with you. I'm fascinated by this. Some
un- some unanswered questions.
Honeybees, they're they're they're
they're endangered. So, like
are people like, you know, pissed are
you pissing people off because you're
killing honeybees? And don't answer
that. We'll tease that for next time.
I'm curious about that. I'm also curious
about like we haven't we haven't talked
much about being like struck by
lightning itself. And then just this
idea of like it seems like Lyme disease,
Fulbright, seems like it's
like I don't know. My perception is is
like it's pooh-poohed by by Western
medicine that is not real. Or or that
it's like a or that it's kind of like
it's misunderstood. Would that be fair
for me to say, John Fulbright?
>> It's definitely misunderstood. And you
know, a lot of insurance companies don't
want Lyme to be understood well cuz they
don't want to pay to heal it. It may
take a hundred thousand dollars in
antibiotics and pulsed antibiotics. You
know, there's a big thing out there
right now that oh, if you do two weeks
of doxycycline and you're not cured then
you have post treatment Lyme disease
syndrome. Well, that's not true at all.
Monica is one of the best scientists in
the United States running the primate
lab at Tulane University has proven
science proven that it is a persistent
infection that hides in the bones and
what you have to do is sneak up on it
with antibiotics then you have to stop
then you use a different kind of
antibiotic it hits them again and then
you stop and let them come back out and
then you hit it again. And so she's
proven you can do this with a six or so
different antibiotics. It's called
pulsed antibiotic therapy combinations
of antibiotics and this is one way to do
it. Now, what I'm working on doing is
bringing this globally especially in the
western states of the the United States
all of the United States really in
Europe is to bring the venom underneath
the new international disease codes that
allow for extended care coverage. So
without really claiming a cure, it's
definitely an alternative medicine that
can help ease people's symptoms and get
their life back on track to where they
can do whatever else they need to to get
rid of it. You may need anti-parasitics,
you know, all this kind of stuff
to hit some of the other things but the
venom itself is showing to be an all
natural way to really help restore
nervous system and function even if
you're not quote cured yet, you're going
to feel a lot better within within
minutes. But again, you want to be doing
We'll bring you back to talk some venom
in the future my brother. Johnny
Anderson closing words for Fulbright
this morning.
Fascinating, eh? Curious. Yeah, I mean
you got me thinking. I know you advise
against it but I'm going to go try to
piss it next time I see a bee I'm going
to piss it off try to get stung. Stay
near the hospital. Well, I'm going to
and I'm going to the thing is is and I
but I would here's the crazy thing is
that I think of every time I've gotten
stung it's
god damn it.
What if I get stung and I'm like,
"Okay."
Yeah. Breathe it in. What am I feeling
besides getting frustrated that I got
stung by a [ __ ] bee? I'm programmed
to be mad when I get stung by a bee.
Yeah, most people are terrified of it.
>> Well, and just by the nature of having
that mental position, I'm turning off
what you're talking about. Yeah, if you
know, to do a to do a little bit of
venom consciously is a life-changer. Uh
I'd say nine out of 10 of my patients
are just like, "Oh my god, what a
godsend."
>> and unless you can explain to me how to
catch that bee, pull out his stinger,
and do it like you'd do it, I have no
choice but to go piss one off and try to
get stung. And we'll do that the next
time Fulbright comes back. Fulbright,
where can we find you, man? Where can we
connect with you and bring you back to
the lab? Where can folks find you?
>> I'm on Instagram @john.fulbright,
Facebook. I'm also on LinkedIn. I've got
a new website coming up,
johnfulbright.com with two L's. That'll
be launching. I'm just re- rebuilding
it. And yeah, we're out there and happy
to share. This is, you know, there's
quite a few of us around the country.
Apitherapy goes back 10,000 years in the
Egypt.
>> Yeah. So, this is nothing new. It's just
It's just about facing fears and
overcoming, you know? The bees are there
for us. It's All right, we're going to
bring Fulbright back because hey guys, I
said bring interesting people into the
lab and we have found an interesting
one, to so to speak. John Fulbright,
thanks for hanging out with us today.
Anderson, final words for John?
All right, let's keep it rocking, man.
I'm very curious to investigate more of
this therapy. Come to Dallas, we'll take
care of you. And if you got some of
these celebrity friends that are
hurting, they're going to be blown away.
It's definitely the most soothing
medicine in the world, definitely the
most powerful. Awesome.